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A3 Q3 Formal Proof
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Henry S
2011-10-30 20:46:11 UTC
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Hi,

1. For assignment 3 question 3 that asks you to do a formal proof, are
we allowed to substitute ∧ (and) with -> (implies) and ¬ (not)?

For example, if we are asked to show |- p ∧ q, can we show |- ¬(p-> ¬q)
since the 2 formulas are equivalent?

2. Also, in using Axiom 1-9, can we substitute ◻A for any WFF?
For example, Ax1 is: A->(B->A), so can we write ◻A->(◻B->◻A) as an
application of Ax1?


Thanks,
Henry
Curtis Bright
2011-10-31 14:52:29 UTC
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Post by Henry S
1. For assignment 3 question 3 that asks you to do a formal proof, are
we allowed to substitute ∧ (and) with -> (implies) and ¬ (not)?
For example, if we are asked to show |- p ∧ q, can we show |- ¬(p-> ¬q)
since the 2 formulas are equivalent?
This would only be acceptable if the first formula was considered as
shorthand for the second.

In this context, the question seems to use "∧" as an actual connective
in our formal language, and not just used as shorthand.
Post by Henry S
2. Also, in using Axiom 1-9, can we substitute ◻A for any WFF?
For example, Ax1 is: A->(B->A), so can we write ◻A->(◻B->◻A) as an
application of Ax1?
Yes.

Curtis
Jonathan Buss
2011-10-31 15:20:41 UTC
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Post by Curtis Bright
Post by Henry S
1. For assignment 3 question 3 that asks you to do a formal proof, are
we allowed to substitute ∧ (and) with -> (implies) and ¬ (not)?
For example, if we are asked to show |- p ∧ q, can we show |- ¬(p-> ¬q)
since the 2 formulas are equivalent?
This would only be acceptable if the first formula was considered as
shorthand for the second.
In this context, the question seems to use "∧" as an actual connective
in our formal language, and not just used as shorthand.
As Curtis notes, we expected that you would use "∧" directly. But you
may use the ¬(p-> ¬q) form instead, if you prefer. (Either way, you
need a proof.)
Post by Curtis Bright
Post by Henry S
2. Also, in using Axiom 1-9, can we substitute ◻A for any WFF?
For example, Ax1 is: A->(B->A), so can we write ◻A->(◻B->◻A) as an
application of Ax1?
Yes.
Yes, indeed. In modal logic, the set of WFFs includes the ones with boxes.

Similarly, when using first-order logic, the WFFs include the ones with
variables and quantifiers.

Jonathan Buss
Henry S
2011-11-01 05:15:02 UTC
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Post by Curtis Bright
Post by Henry S
1. For assignment 3 question 3 that asks you to do a formal proof, are
we allowed to substitute ∧ (and) with -> (implies) and ¬ (not)?
For example, if we are asked to show |- p ∧ q, can we show |- ¬(p-> ¬q)
since the 2 formulas are equivalent?
This would only be acceptable if the first formula was considered as
shorthand for the second.
In this context, the question seems to use "∧" as an actual connective
in our formal language, and not just used as shorthand.
As Curtis notes, we expected that you would use "∧" directly. But you
may use the ¬(p-> ¬q) form instead, if you prefer. (Either way, you need
a proof.)
Post by Curtis Bright
Post by Henry S
2. Also, in using Axiom 1-9, can we substitute ◻A for any WFF?
For example, Ax1 is: A->(B->A), so can we write ◻A->(◻B->◻A) as an
application of Ax1?
Yes.
Yes, indeed. In modal logic, the set of WFFs includes the ones with boxes.
Similarly, when using first-order logic, the WFFs include the ones with
variables and quantifiers.
Jonathan Buss
Thanks for the clarification.

Henry

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